Laughing So Hard-Somebody Circulating Online Petition in Support of Dion’s Leadership

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Laughing So Hard-Somebody Circulating Online Petition in Support of Dion’s Leadership

October 23rd, 20082 Comments

We learn from our mistakes right, or at least we should, but we’re not perfect and just as often as we do learn from the mistakes we sometimes make the same mistakes over and over again.  Loyal Liberal Party of Canada supporters and probably some rank and file members of the battered and bruised political party appear to have not learned from the mistake that saw Stephane Dion named as leader of the LPC.  An online petition is proof of that.

Then there is the adage, “Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.” Dion fooled the Liberal Party once into naming the party leader, but if he is reconfirmed as the party leader after leading the Liberals to what will be remembered as the second or third worst showing in an election in the Liberals history, then shame on LPC members.

The petition I mentioned a moment ago was written by Christine Campbell (cccphd@yahoo.ca), is hosted by www.PetitionOnline.com, and signed off by Jean Proulx of Montreal. Not sure if Proulx is a man or a woman, but it doesn’t matter for this Crooked in Canada entry.

Below is a copy of that petition, which by the way surely has to be an object of ridicule in Canadian cyberspace by now.

To: Liberal Party Of Canada

Doug Ferguson
National President Liberal Party of Canada
81 Metcalfe Street, Suite 400
Ottawa, Ontario
K1P 6M8

I am opposed to the movement underway by anonymous Liberal ‘insiders” to remove Mr. Dion from the leadership. Who are these people? Why do they have more say than ordinary Liberal members? There may be reasonable arguments to change leaders, but there are very few reasons to do so in a precipitous manner. In fact there are many reasons not to do so, including:

1. Many of the people who ran for leader in 2006 are still paying off their campaign debts

2. Engaging in an internally divisive leadership contest will distract us from the important work of thinking about why we lost this election and what we need to do to win the next one and remove Stephen Harper from office. He need to discuss how we strengthen our organizational infrastructure so that we can run a more effective election campaign next time (having a plane might help for example).

3. Mr. Dion ran an honourable and substantive campaign. Although some people may not like him, very few people do not respect him. He has provided invaluable service to our party. He deserves more time to think about his own future.

Please consider my feelings and the feelings of other grassroots Liberals before allowing Mr. Dion to be forced out of office. My attitude towards our party’s frequent fundraising appeals will depend in part on the attitude the party’s leaders take with regards to this issue. I doubt I am alone in that.

Respectfully, your fellow Liberal and citizen,

Jean A. Proulx
Montréal (QC)

cc: Robert Fragasso, President – Parti Libéral du Canada (Québec)
Marc Garneau, MP – Westmount-Ville-Marie

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

At the time of writing this article there were 983 signatures.

Obviously those 983 supporters (most of whom are Liberal, and some who are Conservatives who feel as long as Dion is the leader of the LPC, the Conservatives will remain in power) do not put any merit into the fact that Dion has done absolutely nothing, nada, zero, zilch, in improving the LPC’s fortunes, and more importantly they are ignoring the fact that the cause of the LPC losing 19 seats in last week’s election was due to the fact that Canadians don’t like Dion. The latter being acknowledged by Dion himself when he spoke to reporters this past Monday (see October 21 blog entry).

Dion said himself that after consulting with Liberal Party members about the election defeat that he had heard from door knockers that people whose doors they knocked on had stated on many occasions that their door knocks were answered with the statement, “I don’t like your leader.”  I’m paraphrasing of course, but that’s the gist of what Dion said to the media as far as the reason the LPC did so poorly in Election 08.

A petition to keep Dion in his leadership position despite leading the Liberals to a humiliating defeat and the fact that the Liberal Party knows that Canadians don’t like Dion. Get real! He should be replaced with an interim leader now. Let the leadership race begin by dumping Dion now.

How effin’ stupid is Proulx for thinking that it’s a good idea to keep Dion on as the leader while the Liberals figure out where they went wrong and what they need to do to fix what is wrong. Proulx is just a foolish thinker, albeit one looking for a little attention. Whoever this Proulx is, he or she needs to pull his or ass in. It’s either that or Proulx should consider installing a windshield and a mirror in his or her belly button so that he or she can see where they are going.

Message to Proulx: The problem with the Liberals begins at the top mate. Dion is a cancer to the Liberal Party and the sooner they remove that cancer, the quicker the Liberals can begin their rehabilitation. There is no reason to keep Dion at the helm, and if anything your petition is ridiculous, inane, and just plain retarded.

Maybe Proulx is having a little fun at the LPC’s expense.

I can’t think of any other reason for somebody outside of the rank and file membership to circulate a petition asking that the soon-to-be backbencher (maybe he’ll score a Shadow Cabinet post, which would merely be a token gesture made by the next LPC leader) be allowed to remain as leader while the party tries to figure out where they went wrong.

I think most Liberals will agree now that Dion isn’t the guy who can lead them into the future, nor is he the guy who can help right a ship that began listing the moment it was discovered that there was something very shonky with the former Unity Fund, which as it turned out was the scandal that brought the Liberal Party down in the end.

Look where the Liberals are today.

Dion can help fix what is wrong with the Liberals now and keeping him on as leader even an interim one does nothing to convince me that the Liberals know what they are doing. Keeping Dion at the helm when he has failed the party so terribly is just stupid, and for Proulx to rally to his defence (if this petition isn’t a joke) is just as stupid as Dion.

I can’t believe somebody had the balls to circulate such a petition, especially given Dion’s record as leader of the LPC.

Proulx is a moron, what more can I say.

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2 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Craig S // Oct 23, 2008 at 1:56 PM

    Um…this blog entry seems to be nothing but a glib and angry rant.

    A piece of advice: you should really refrain from childish, ad hominem remarks, they suck the credibility right out of your arguments.

    Proulx is serious and he deserves credit for his bold leadership in the time of crisis -and this coming from me, a dedicated, socialist NDPer! Perhaps Liberals ought to consider long and hard the real reasons for which they find themselves in this political slum: could it be a lack of relevance? Lack of credibility from their left-leaning clientele? That they are stil mired in scandal? That they are perceived to be power-hungry?

    Dion ain’t the whole problem, disconnectedness IS. Where the hell is the political centre anyway?

    CG responds:

    Spare me already. Nothing like rushing to the defense of a Liberal in their time of grief and sorrow.

    Keep Dion as leader, Proulx can’t be serious.

    The Liberals lost because Dion couldn’t do what he promised he would do when he strong-armed his way into the leadership position. The Liberals are worse off today than the day Dion took over the leadership. He should be dumped. You know it, I know it, and if Proulx could be as bold as you claim he is in showing leadership, then he too should admit that Dion is the reason the Liberals suffered their second worst defeat (maybe its the third worst) in the party’s history and that it is time for him to go.

    What’s the point of fixing a machine if you’re not willing to take it apart and rebuild it the moment you know what is wrong. Don’t doubt for one minute that the party members don’t know what is wrong or where they went wrong. They (except for a few who know better) just don’t have the guts to do anything about it. Those would be the same guts that they didn’t have every time Dion threatened to bring the Tories down with a non-confidence vote.

    As for Dion’s leadership, if Dion spent less time threatening to topple the Conservative government and more time fixing what was and still is wrong within the Liberal Party since he won (stole depending on who you ask) the leadership, the Liberals would have fared much better this time around and there would be no call from within the rank and file for him to step aside now.

    Again; keep Dion on as leader despite the humiliating defeat he led the Liberals too? Get real.

    Proulx is backing the wrong horse and this petition is either a joke or an attempt by him to make himself look good. Supposing Proulx is serious, I think his reasons for this petition are self-serving, that he is looking to score some brownie points.

    Lol, keeping Dion on as leader-that is just too funny, and really dumb.

    As for the NDP; it is a rare occasion when I can have something good to say about them, and to that end I think they would make a far better alternative as the official opposition than the LPC ever would, at least for the time being. Unfortunately, the rest of Canada doesn’t feel that way, otherwise they would have fared much better at the polls.

    One thing I do know, an NDPer backing a Liberal now (as you obviously are) when the NDP didn’t seize upon an opportunity to do so every time Dion threatened to topple the government on numerous occasions, makes me laugh now.

    Regards,

    Canadian Gypsy

  • 2 Craig S // Oct 31, 2008 at 8:52 AM

    Yuck! Me backing Dion? I was just giving Proulx credit where HE deserves. Believe me, I’m not a fan of the grits. In fact, strategically, I want Dion to stay in, if only to help out the TRUE progressives of Canada, represented by the NDP.

    As for Dion’s leadership, here’s what I had to say in a letter to the Montréal Mirror about Dion:

    Dion’s no angel

    [Re: “Canada’s widening income gap,” Insect, News, Oct. 23] I find it terribly ironic that your insect of the week is a direct result of policies promoted by your angel of the week—Stéphane Dion.

    As a member of both Chrétien and Martin’s cabinets, Stéphane Dion was touting deep cuts to public investment (e.g. health care, education etc.) and liberalization of labour markets (remember the FTAA?).

    Moreover, during his brief tenure as leader of the Liberals, Stéphane Dion stood numerous times in the house of commons and defended huge corporate tax cuts (with nothing in return to combat social inequality) and instructed his caucus to allow passage of 43 Harper motions (in order to avoid an election, which we got anyway).

    To be sure, Stéphane Dion is certainly no insect, but an angel? Come on now, let’s get a hold of ourselves! In fact, Dion has been a stalwart adversary of the Canadian progressive movement.

    In the recent federal election, amidst the usual Liberal fear-mongering, Dion was full-on red-baiting: gallivanting all over Canada proclaiming that the NDP were no more than “19th century socialists who don’t understand the economy.”

    This is ignoble, to say the least; but also sadly hypocritical: in last week’s press conference, Dion was bellyaching about how Canada didn’t get to know the “real Stéphane” while he himself is guilty of the same disinformation and slander.

    CG says:

    I wasn’t sure if you were backing Dion or not. Thanks for clarifying that for me. As for Proulx, well let me put it to you this way, he certainly isn’t as stupid as other Liberals I read about, and I certainly wouldn’t want him to paint him with the same brush I painted Liberal supporters with in today’s Crooked in Canada posting. Liberal supporters calling for Justin Trudeau to be named leader. They can’t be serious.

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